The Jungian model deals with the collective unconscious, which is the psychological part of our life with the that we are born and that most importantly, is not subject to constraints and that besides are born already formed things. Fontana questioned about why we suffer? It is an existential question and Buddha often tried to answer and he said there are three reasons for suffering: attachment, aversion and ignorance. Also Buddha gives us the key to distance ourselves from suffering, that is: destroy the suffering if we practice not attachment, if we practice wisdom instead of ignorance and acceptance rather than rejection or aversion. Dr. Gallegos refers to the real transformation of our true nature is always here and now, that we must not think in the future or in the past, to what Fontana talks about the concept of impermanence, which shows us that everything changes, nothing remains equal. Sheri R. Klein (Ph.d. in education.

Professor in the Department of education at the University of Wisconsin) converses with Dr. Gallegos on: sacred space. It is very important to have a sacred space in the spiritual experience as Dr. Gallegos, says that this would help us to a comprehensive learning; currently only prepares students academically and a true education of the totality of being, is not given as Sheri says. We must we as educators form human beings with a high level of awareness and education to be more comprehensive, as well as foster dialogue, since it can be a meaningful process for learning. Educational spaces are currently very cold as Dr. Gallegos says they are very ugly, and does not evoke the spirit or life, to what Sheri mentions that she likes the physical spaces where education is given to be more personal, more more unique humans; We need spaces where we are to make us feel at home.